tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8574696193706600827.post4945537603319159553..comments2023-04-10T10:51:50.217-04:00Comments on APUSH 1: Same-Sex Schools: An Answer to Problems in Education?Lord Gehmhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12361275468009503613noreply@blogger.comBlogger63125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8574696193706600827.post-82050388469315259332014-03-09T16:00:42.457-04:002014-03-09T16:00:42.457-04:00Wow Megan!!! Great First Post!!! We'll all be...Wow Megan!!! Great First Post!!! We'll all be looking forward to you being in our class next year!!! :)Lord Gehmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12361275468009503613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8574696193706600827.post-48526808969133272532014-03-08T00:17:40.935-05:002014-03-08T00:17:40.935-05:00"there will always be the cattiness, hierarch..."there will always be the cattiness, hierarchy, estrogen rages, cliques and gossip. It’s inevitable."<br />While this is true, it's sort of a negative connotation. Also, since you're obviously a girl, it makes sense that you wrote from a girl's perspective. But I believe that it's also one sided because although we can be all of those things, I'd like to point out that we can also be loving, loyal, friendly, and all for anti-gossip, anti-hierarchy, anti-cattiness, strong & independent women! <br />I agree with everything else, I just didn't want us females put in a bad light. ;)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12932790730149172839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8574696193706600827.post-5386862966928961832014-03-08T00:06:59.884-05:002014-03-08T00:06:59.884-05:00I really liked how you compared the United States ...I really liked how you compared the United States to Finland and pointed out that their #1 WITH a co-ed school system. It was great that you took initiative to research the rankings and what their system included. I'm all for co-ed schools, and I especially like how you stated "This would just show that co-educational schools have the potential to be the best in the world" because we ALL have potential, we just need to apply it! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12932790730149172839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8574696193706600827.post-12030606657016749442014-03-07T23:59:52.323-05:002014-03-07T23:59:52.323-05:00Uh Carrie.. I don't think that that single-sex...Uh Carrie.. I don't think that that single-sex schools will help homosexuals in any way shape or form. If anything it would make things worse, unfortunately the natural response of many men in particular toward a same-sex relationship is not very good, and to some degree women can have a positive effect on men in this area, discouraging these thoughts. Now imagine if you took that away? Everything would revert back to the way it used to be making things far worse!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15994021928464992315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8574696193706600827.post-56249072377406153832014-03-07T23:59:29.688-05:002014-03-07T23:59:29.688-05:00I agree with you in saying that many students don&...I agree with you in saying that many students don't care, but don't you think we could put an end to that? Same-sex schools are a solution to this. Students may not care in a co-ed school, but once they are mixed with people they wouldn't be easily distracted from, people start paying attention more. And although I agree with you in the point that there will always be attraction, I do feel that in same-sex schools, the attraction will be more limited.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16657599288740180489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8574696193706600827.post-41715963905100911442014-03-07T23:56:39.405-05:002014-03-07T23:56:39.405-05:00I like that you mention how people come to school ...I like that you mention how people come to school simply for the interaction. Day to day, I hear people saying how "they wouldn't mind school if there was no work involved" and that is wrong. People look forward to coming to school because they want to see their friend or because they want to see what so-and-so is wearing. It's really sad. People no longer come to learn knowledge, but instead to associate with people that they can easily associate with after school or on the weekends. I feel that same-sex schools would, for the most part, solve this issue. Yes, people would still come to school to see their friends who are of the same gender, but people won't look forward to coming to school to see the person they have a crush on.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16657599288740180489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8574696193706600827.post-54333336965724462622014-03-07T23:54:47.935-05:002014-03-07T23:54:47.935-05:00Okay Iqra, calm down with the whole "schools ...Okay Iqra, calm down with the whole "schools are focused around social-interaction" thing, because they're not. At the end of the day the whole purpose of a school is to prepare for reality so it doesn't just smack you in the face all at once. As for increasing a woman's role in society I ask what do you want to increase it to? Right now the role of men and women are about equal and in many homes both bring in income, they can hold the same jobs as men. So are you suggesting that we should elevate their role to a status above men? That notion does seem just a tad bit absurd..Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15994021928464992315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8574696193706600827.post-51534338035511161032014-03-07T23:50:01.168-05:002014-03-07T23:50:01.168-05:00Although co-ed schools have their benefits, same-s...Although co-ed schools have their benefits, same-sex schools provide students with countless advantages. <br />First, school is about education. Now, I'm not saying that people don't learn in co-ed schools because they do. But, students are more likely to comprehend and understand what they're being taught in same-sex schools because they are more attentive to what's going on in their classroom. There are no embarrassments or distractions caused by a person of the opposite sex in same-sex schools. Much of the time, people "play dumb" or act ridiculous just to get the attention of someone they are attracted to. Many people don't deliver to their fullest potential because they are embarrassed to do so in front of the person they like. Aside from not trying their best, many people are too distracted to even pay attention to what their teacher is saying because they're so taken with the person they like. One class, you're staring at a person you like and the next, you fail your test because you didn't pay attention to the lesson your teacher was teaching that day.<br />When in same-sex schools, people are more focused on learning. There is rarely any attraction to someone else in your class. All the student's attention is on the teacher and the lesson being taught.<br />Another great aspect of a same-sex school is the lack of what people like to call "class clowns". Most of the time, same-sex schools are filled with students that care to learn. Same-sex schools are made up of students that want to better their futures. <br />Another point I'd like to bring up is the amount of hours we go to school. We attend school for 7-8 hours. That is only 1/2 of the time we are awake. Students have all the way from after school to later in the day to associate with people outside of their gender. Just because the 8 hours at school does not allow access to the opposite sex does not mean that the students in the same-sex schools are completely cut off from those of the opposing gender. It simply means that during the hours that students learn, distractions should be limited.<br />Lastly, tests have been performed on students attempting to validate these points brought up by several people. Many tests have shown that those in same-sex schools excel more than those in co-ed schools. <br />Both types of schools are beneficial in their own ways, but when it comes to receiving a better education, same-sex schools seem to be the better pick. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16657599288740180489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8574696193706600827.post-74953124738655527252014-03-07T23:47:42.931-05:002014-03-07T23:47:42.931-05:00Vinit you made a great point by saying that the wh...Vinit you made a great point by saying that the whole purpose of school is to prepare us for the real world, and since we will be working with women in the real world it makes no sense to separate them all into different schools as it would defer from the whole purpose of school in the first place.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15994021928464992315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8574696193706600827.post-33230806219393044472014-03-07T23:43:50.264-05:002014-03-07T23:43:50.264-05:00The problem with American schools is not because m...The problem with American schools is not because many of them are not single-sex schools, in fact people from schools with both sexes often do better than those who come out of single sec schools. Neither can the blame fall upon the teachers because the teachers here are unbelievable, they genuinely seem to love their jobs, they even take away from their own free-time, whether it be for extra-help after school or to form study groups over the weekend. This is bizarre and rare but I think that many students here are so used to this that they take it completely for granted. In Ireland a teacher would never, ever give away any extra time for a student unless he or she had detention. They let you sleep in class because very few of them actually care if you do well or not. So the reason schools in America are doing poorly is not because of teachers or because the majority have an attendance of both sexes, so what could be the reason? Tests. Tests are the reason. In most other countries multiple choice is almost completely non-existent, so you either know the material or you don't. Over here almost everything is multiple choice, it removes the need for real studying, which is absolutely necessary in other countries if you are to so much as pass. Do not get me wrong, I am in now way campaigning against multiple choice, it's great and so easy, you barely have to do any work and its still possible to get an A. But the thing is that these easy tests are not really good for the student intellectually, they do not need to know the material as thoroughly so they do less studying and work and focus that energy elsewhere. The odd thing is that the state and government here do not deem the test to easy but in fact too hard! So in cases such as the SAT's they are now lowering the passing grade and making the test less difficult! So in reality everything will look good on paper but in effect it will not be half as good as it seems to be. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15994021928464992315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8574696193706600827.post-33523613978868577152014-03-07T23:43:17.231-05:002014-03-07T23:43:17.231-05:00I like how you mentioned bullying! I meant to get ...I like how you mentioned bullying! I meant to get around something like that in my post.. Oh well<br />The point where you explain why these schools have higher test scores really added to your argument. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281112200915943654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8574696193706600827.post-31115951032811892652014-03-07T23:36:03.033-05:002014-03-07T23:36:03.033-05:00The part of this post that sticks out most to me i...The part of this post that sticks out most to me is your point that people do go out of their way trying to impress those of the opposite sex. I don't know if anyone else here as noticed this, but, throughout my years in school, I've noticed that many people do go out of their way just to simply impress a guy they've been crushing on or a girl they think is pretty. People actually go through the trouble of "playing dumb" or acting all ditsy in class just to gain the attention of the person they like. Attraction has become a distraction in many schools. A lot of people don't pay attention to what is going on in class because they're so worried about how they look.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16657599288740180489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8574696193706600827.post-9662421456623666652014-03-07T22:35:44.029-05:002014-03-07T22:35:44.029-05:00Education is what one makes of it: it can either b...Education is what one makes of it: it can either be a hindrance or a benefit depending on how one sees it. Stating that same-sex schools promotes learning better than a mixed school is simply not true for a multitude of reasons: indeed, sometimes it actually harms a person's growth. According to a study done by Boston University in 2013, bullying occurs more in same-sex schools than in mixed schools, so stating that same-sex schools promote a "learning environment" is plainly not true. There is a huge reason why test scores are higher in same-sex schools than in mixed schools: all same-sex schools are PRIVATE in the United States. As one pays for private schools, children who attend same-sex schools generally come from families who have higher income and thus, more access to resources, such as private tutors , to preform better. Pressure to excel in school is also found to have a correlation with income, with children who have higher income families are generally pressured academic-wise than lower income families. It is not the lack of distractions or the superior quality of teachers that make same-sex schools better on tests, its the resources the children have that make them higher. While I do agree that more women need to pursue men-dominated fields, such as Physics, there are a plethora of ways to make women want to pursue these fields than attending same-sex schools. Private corporation scholarships that go solely to women who are pursuing a career in a male-dominated field would increase the percentage of brilliant women in their respective fields, as would seminars persuading women to go into male-dominated fields. Mixed schools have the benefit of promoting social interactions that people of all genders would benefit from; to put it bluntly, one cannot go their entire life without collaborating with a person of the opposite sex at least once, and mixed schools allow the opportunity for students to hone this life skill. Same-sex schools do not allow this, and thus, a vital part of a person's future interactions would be underdeveloped from lack of usage. Same-sex schools are contradictions: they are billed to promote gender equality and allow people to excel while in reality, they do exactly the opposite. Pranav Jaideephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08657794762650596813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8574696193706600827.post-46796433173887810282014-03-07T22:22:30.915-05:002014-03-07T22:22:30.915-05:00Excited for my debut post :)
In the real world, m...Excited for my debut post :)<br /><br />In the real world, males and females are together constantly. Just look around you. In day care they’re together, in grammar school they’re together; throughout school years they stay together. Whether it be at the hospital, the bank, the grocery story, or work; men and women are together from building to building, from car to bus, and it doesn’t stop. Why are we arguing that for men and women to be educated properly, they need to be separated? Sure, there are statistics that back up a small portion of it, but in the real world we work together. We equally have male and female honor students and male and female non-achievers; both sexes are in band and both are in JSA, which proves that they can work together harmoniously or even as a team. Back in the day, female schools taught economics, where they learned how to cook, sew, care for children, etc. Males and females have evolved into equal partners; both able to manage the home, play sports, and work at the same jobs. You even find them as best friends in school, allies, or competitors. <br />Let’s face it; boys and girls help even each other out. <br />Neuroscience can explain why men and women think and act differently, therefore we can’t be blamed for distracting each other, we can blame biology. Because of this hormonal connection, Dr. McEwen, a neuroscientist and neuroendocrinologist stated “female and male brains respond on an anatomical level.” This means that because of hormones we respond to our environments inversely.<br />While theoretically, same-sex schools are a good alternative to traditional co-ed public schools, it is normal to socialize with the opposite sex. Life is about interaction and understanding how to live in the real world, which school prepares us for. We attend school not just for writing essays and taking exams; we learn the vital concepts of thinking critically, nurturing qualities to assist us in the future, expressing our feelings toward certain topics and starting our life experience. Most importantly, we begin to find out who we are as we mature into young adults. <br />Single-sex versus co-educational schools fashions a comparative disadvantage for either sex because of the fact that “boys gain more academically from studying in co-educational schools, but that girls find segregated schools more conducive to achievement”. We cannot make a decision that will benefit one while leaving the other to suffer without creating a stalemate.<br />Single-sex education was predominant prior to the 19th century for religious beliefs or cultural customs. The National Association of Single-Sex Public Education (NASSPE) states, “Just putting girls in one room and boys in another is no guarantee of success.” Disadvantages of single-sex education can cause many social problems, in that students will not learn how to interact normally with the opposite gender. High school students who have attended same-sex schools find it shocking when they enter college with the opposite gender. This separation reduces the opportunities of males and females to work together, and can make it harder to deal with the other sex later in life while developing low self-esteem. Bullying is also more predominant in same-sex schools.<br />A point made by Bigler et al. (2011) stated: “Although excellent public single-sex schools clearly exist, there is no empirical evidence that their success stems from their single-sex organization, as opposed to the quality of the student body, demanding curricula, and many other features also known to promote achievement at coeducational schools.”<br />In conclusion, this is an old education approach gaining new impetus based on modern-day schooling’s lack of efficiency. Rather than just jumping to this drastic measure that will impact the development of boys and girls, our government and educators should be able to come up with a new curriculum or strategy that will target the minds of students in the present day. It should be up to parents to enroll student in a same-sex private school.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12932790730149172839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8574696193706600827.post-20617334170357272402014-03-07T22:15:14.639-05:002014-03-07T22:15:14.639-05:00I agree wholeheartedly with your point about distr...I agree wholeheartedly with your point about distractions. No matter where you go, distractions with other people will always occur so long that you have contact with people:it does not matter where this distraction comes from.Pranav Jaideephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08657794762650596813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8574696193706600827.post-65981764772594261722014-03-07T22:11:39.270-05:002014-03-07T22:11:39.270-05:00I feel that you are massively overreacting of the ...I feel that you are massively overreacting of the issue of this topic by stating the only reason males go to school is to meet women and have other "social interactions". Stating that males put the social aspect of school above the academic aspect is simply utterly false: our APUSH I class is a perfect example. We have an even 50-50 distribution of men to women in our class, and us males did not reach this high class by only "interacting". It is a matter of creating a balance between social and academic interactions, a life skill which only a mixed school can provide to the fullest.Pranav Jaideephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08657794762650596813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8574696193706600827.post-11481770698123791682014-03-07T21:55:57.689-05:002014-03-07T21:55:57.689-05:00I completely disagree with your claim that single-...I completely disagree with your claim that single-sex schools promote the nondiscrimination of homosexual marriages and relationships. We live in a day and age where it is socially and morally (except for people who think that homosexuality is on par with marrying a box turtle...John Cornyn...) acceptable for people to have homosexual relationships and the since the majority of people do not go to same-sex schools, it actually is the people who went to mixed schools to contribute to the trend. I feel the converse can be considered more true, as a large part of single-sex schools are affiliated with the Church, who may not condone homosexuality. Saying that same-sex schools promote relationship-equality is like saying all-black schools promote race-equality: completely untrue.Pranav Jaideephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08657794762650596813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8574696193706600827.post-33009250212949906662014-03-07T21:32:53.802-05:002014-03-07T21:32:53.802-05:00Iqra,
I do have to disagree with you here because...Iqra, <br />I do have to disagree with you here because I am actually in support of the other side. The education system could easily solve the issue of too much social interaction: get stricter teachers. A strict teacher can forbid these social interactions and not all social interactions are "bad." I mean, some careers later on are entirely based on working with people so it is an essential life skill. Next, about the "women roles in society," if women work hard in the traditional school systems, they can still get far either way. Vinit Parikhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10095358119274908120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8574696193706600827.post-82607900979488481532014-03-07T21:25:56.442-05:002014-03-07T21:25:56.442-05:00Your argument is that we socialize too often in co...Your argument is that we socialize too often in co-ed schools, however just like JSA, we debate and social and talk. Is that not what JSA is for? It is to socialize with other schools, as well as other genders. Schools encourage socialization because it goes hand in hand with learning and academics. If you pay attention to colleges that want you now, they even say they want you MORE involved with society and interacting. They don't just pay attention to your grades. Like Martin Luther King Jr. once said, " Intelligence plus character - that is the goal of true education." Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12340055170456924480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8574696193706600827.post-34777085450660988152014-03-07T21:22:58.281-05:002014-03-07T21:22:58.281-05:00Nirali,
I do agree with most of this post. Success...Nirali,<br />I do agree with most of this post. Success depends on how much you put into in, not how much the school system or the environment has to do with it. You were correct in saying that a complete transformation of the structure of schools in attempt of a possible change does not seem worth it. I have shown in my post that Finland, the number 1 education system in the world, also currently uses co-educational schooling. The issue is not single gender or co-educational schooling but rather how much the students and teachers put into it. Vinit Parikhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10095358119274908120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8574696193706600827.post-84506956758191301232014-03-07T21:22:16.512-05:002014-03-07T21:22:16.512-05:00I think you're absolutely right when you say, ...I think you're absolutely right when you say, "Whether you’re in a same-sex or co-ed school, you have the same opportunity to achieve greatness." It shouldn't be a battle to decide which one's better. Both have flaws that may need to be fixed, but in the end I think it should be the person to decide which may be best for their education, and which would benefit them the most. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12340055170456924480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8574696193706600827.post-37118904654541404472014-03-07T21:19:30.737-05:002014-03-07T21:19:30.737-05:00You say that the same schools have less teachers. ...You say that the same schools have less teachers. But doesn't that make it harder for the school especially when there may be a huge population of students? I think the quality of the teachers matters more than the quantity. I believe that may not fit in on this topic, especially since both co-ed and same sex schools can have the same amount of teachers and still have the same amount of success.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12340055170456924480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8574696193706600827.post-77630146262988487352014-03-07T21:15:56.195-05:002014-03-07T21:15:56.195-05:00Same sex schools, mixed boys and girls schools in ...Same sex schools, mixed boys and girls schools in my opinion they both have their flaws. It can be debatable which one may be better, especially with the discrimination same sex schools may bring, and the attention that co-ed educational facilities may lack.<br />On one side, you can debate that same sex schools could be a good thing especially with no distractions, mainly from the male species. There would be full concentration on what is the main goal at school: a great learning education to help you in the future. There would be less drama in the male department, because there are no males to fight over. Same-sex schools also seem to allow girls to interact better and become more confident, frequently participating without being nervous or scared of being judged. It raises women's' self esteem, making them fearless and ready for a challenge.<br /><br />On the other hand, you have one school for both boys and girls, which would benefit both genders tremendously. Interactions between different sex has always been challenging, and learning at a young age gets people ready for the real world. When you have a job, not only will you work with women, you will also work close with men as well, which will not be too much of a struggle, if it's been taught and mastered at a young age. Having both genders in one room could also help, because both men and women work harder to impress the other sex, whether they notice it or not. Impressions you make on people always last, and it will allow people to take more risks especially when boys and girls are in the same classes. In some cases, because there is no one to impress, people think that it's an excuse for them not to try. Having both genders makes them work harder to get up to certain standards, maybe to reach a certain person. Another thing that regular co-ed public schools encourage is the friendliness and socialization. Same-sex schools tend to discriminate men and women from being in the same school, segregating two species that don't necessarily need to be segregated. <br /><br />So you can see there are many positives to each type of school. In our communities and societies today we have a variety of both types of schools, allowing people to choose which they think may be best for their student. That is most beneficial, because it gives you the ability to choose, not being limited to one type of school that might not be fit for you. It's best to keep it this way in order to pleasure everyone in our society. If we had to choose one for some reason, I think co-ed schools would be best fit, making it an enjoyable environment for boys and girls, allowing them to interact freely and get a great education in the process. Sometimes it's not about who goes to the school, it's more about who is teaching the students and how well a certain school's standards are. <br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12340055170456924480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8574696193706600827.post-50438760402472303412014-03-07T21:10:16.218-05:002014-03-07T21:10:16.218-05:00I like how you brought up that trying to change th...I like how you brought up that trying to change the schools themselves might be a useless effort, and that affecting the way the students actually approach education is a much more efficient way to do the job. However, I find it odd that you feel that the way to correct the nation's downward trend of education is by limiting social interactions. Isn't that the aim, to some extent, of same-sex schools, which you are against? It seems to me that your solution eventually circles back around the beginning of the blog, which is whether such a drastic move can be accomplished.Brandon Halpinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08207816474479694802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8574696193706600827.post-85726009599361227302014-03-07T20:56:29.224-05:002014-03-07T20:56:29.224-05:00Hannah,
I do have to say that this was a very wel...Hannah, <br />I do have to say that this was a very well written post. It effortlessly utilizes facts and strongly supports your argument. Single-sex schools however might end up helping the school system in the short term but you also have to think long term. You did mention this in your post, but it will be difficult to cooperative with the opposite gender in future employment. We can't create a perfect environment that is completely false in the real world as it won't help us in the long run. Vinit Parikhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10095358119274908120noreply@blogger.com